I’m sorry, but I kind of lost interest in Glenn when he started getting so “preachy”. I, too, am a believer, and I’m aware that our nation was founded on Christian principles, however, I get very nervous when I hear more of a sermon than a political speech. It’s really moot what I think about Mormonism, the denomination isn’t important, I would feel just as nervous with any other ‘believer’ rending the same ‘sermons’ that I hear from Glenn.
If he could seperate the two, and maybe even publish a series of CD’s from his religious perspective, I would be interested in purchasing and listening to him outside of the polical realm.
A Religio-Political message from anyone makes me nervous, but I still listen to him often, and I still love him for what he espouses to do to bring us back to the America of yesteryear, that so many of us so desperately want back. God and Country, Law and Order is the motto that our Country should live by.

I think you miss the point. It is the people that are tired of the Government, the socialistic/marsist direction this country is being forced into. Mr Becks message of christian unity and values are needed to stop the penetration of muslim values into our gov.

Those who compare Beck to John the Baptist or call him a “voice calling out in the wilderness” (quoting Isaiah) tend to prove my original point. There are those who view Beck as a force for a revival of faith. The question is, what has changed over the past few decades to make evangelical Christians so accommodating of a faith of which they have traditionally disapproved? In all likelihood, if this rally were held twenty years ago, Beck would not have had nearly the audience he had this weekend. So what has changed?

I think in the political realm, it’s perfectly ok to invite people to return to God and honor the founding principles of our country.

I think the Restoring Honor Rally was pretty much all inclusive of all religions, but acknowledging that our founders and Constitution and laws are based on the Bible, not the koran or any other religious writings. Therefore, Beck encouraging people to come back to God in order to be free and honorable citizens of a free and honorable society is perfectly fine with me. I don’t see him as a spiritual leader, but rather as a seeker of God. The fact that he is a Morman doesn’t bother me, because I have heard him acknowledge Jesus Christ as the Son of God and the Redeemer. And who knows…all of the “mainstream” Christians that he interacts with may very well be influencing him spiritually.

It seems to me, that alot of people that posted here don’t listen to Glenn Beck. The 8/28 event was not about politics OR a specific faith or religion. There were leaders of All religioins in attendance. This event was about faith, personal responsability, and the principals that this country was founded on. I have never gotten the impression that Beck is trying to recruit anyone into his religion. I was at the event, very uplifting and encouraging. I wish everyone of faith could have been there.

You do not have to me a Mormon to be a Christain, Mr Beck was not tring to get people to become mormons, and if that is what you believe you missed alot. Get back to God, and God Bless America, that’s what it was about, Give thanks to God, get behind God, and be a good person.

Thanks for the opportunity to call it as I see it. Glenn Beck did something on 8/28/10 that I have believed someone who had the ability to reach the masses needed to do for many decades. As a Christian I believe the different denominations need to put their “rules/differences” aside and come together as Christians/Children of God. I realize that there are different thoughts on who is real and who is not but if we put that aside long enough to come together to reach out to others and battle against the elements of evil on earth we might actually get somewhere. What Glenn did was try to be inclusive of all faiths instead of shunning some in hopes of bringing this Country to its knees in Prayer. No matter the name on the building we use for our Religious services we are all seeking our God. I won’t use this to put my personal beliefs, but if we could all come together and put our best efforts forth maybe we can get the U.S of A back on the path God intended.

Glenn Beck is only simply a man like the rest of us. However, He is not asking us to follow him; is simply a man whose faith in God, the Creator and Ruler of the universe, has given him the courage to stand up and point us to “The Truth and the Way.”
god is not interested in denominations. God is interested in having people becoming willing to follow Him, and promises to heal our land if we turn to Him. Let me pose a question? We talk about ethics but where do we get a basis or by what or whose thinking are ethics established? I say if we follow the humanistic way we either go with every wind that blows or whatever might happen to be the “Cultural flavor of the month.” What happen then? Pleasure seeking, selfish greed, and chaos!!! God gives us the foundation for the Bibilical Ethics on which our country and our constitution is based. Glen Beck is simply pointing the way to the Light and the road of Faith and Prayer that will keep us free, and will heal our land.

I think your post begs the question “What God are we supposed to (re)turn to?”.

I suspect that by being vague about what God Beck is calling us to he leaves it up to his listeners to fill in the blank – so they all assume that it’s their God he’s talking about and so they continue to jump on board. More listeners for Beck! Where as if he actually got specific about what kind of God it was and what this God wants of us, he’d arouse listeners ire and he’d lose listeners. While there are as many images of God as there are people in the world here are two possibilities.

The tribal God of America that loves whiter Christian conservatives and loathes (or at least disregards) communists, socialists, marxists, darker people (be they black, brown, native american, asian, or middle-eastern), gays, muslims, ‘new’ immigrants, the French, and expects the poor to ‘take responsibility’ for their situation? Is it a God that supports America regardless of the morality of it’s national behavior – be it support for totalitarian regimes because it benefits us (Saddam Hussein, and MANY others), torture, and war for oil (or are we liberating muslims who we don’t want to worship in our country, hmm)?

Or is it Jesus? A suffering servant. A man who loved the poor and despised – the tax collector (aka the IRS only a thousand times worse), the prostitute (inherently a destitute woman who sells her body to eat and most likely commits infanticide and/or abortion as a regular part of her work), the Samaritan woman (the ethnic and religious minority the Israelites felt were inferior and didn’t deserve to dwell in their land). Jesus who told the rich man to sell everything he has and give it to the poor and then follow him (aka become poor and homeless with Me). The man who’s primary activity was healing (giving away health care to any who had need regardless of ability to pay). The man who so refused to involve himself in politics (in particular the peoples’ desire to rebel against the decadent totalitarian pagan occupiers so they could return to the good old days of One Nation Under One God) to the disappointment of his own people who then gladly cheered for his execution at the hands of the Romans. The Jesus who taught that it wasn’t how righteous you looked but how much you loved that mattered.

I hope it’s the later and not the former. But by being vague Mr. Beck challenges no one’s view of God. And that’s like no Biblical prophet I’ve ever studied. That’s politics and popularity.

II Timothy 4:2-5 – Convince, rebuke, exhort, with all longsuffering and teaching. For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine, but according to their own desires, because they have itching ears, they will heap up for themselves teachers; and they will turn their ears away from the truth, and be turned aside to fables. But you [Timothy] be watchful in all things, endure afflictions, do the work of an evangelist, fulfill your ministry.

I have heard from David Barton that the greatest thing about some of our founders, they would pray with anyone. I am not a Mormon and Glenn doesn’t talk about his religion that much. He talks about God and that only He has the answers we need. He and David Barton have had many TV shows together sharing our founders faith, including black preachers like Pastor Hoossier. This has been the problem through time, wanting people to be just like you. I belonged to one of those churches in the past and believe there was no joy or happiness, just judging others. That is God’s job, mine is to share Him with others and be as Christ Like as possible. You all will have some surprises in heaven.

was this the beginning of a One World Religion? I pray not…

let me be clear
I believe Gelen Beck has been called by God to stir up the people of God at such time as this.
His message is simple: WAKE UP and HEAR what is being said.
Search for yourself and find the Truth…then stand up and be counted.
This is not a denominational thing nor is it really a political thing. It is a matter of VALUES.
Wake up and Listen to the Spriit within …let Him guide you into all Truth and follow in the way that He leads.
Our purpose here is to have Life and have it abundantly.
We the people, ARE the government in this great country.

To all those on the right critical of Glenn Beck because he is a Mormon, should reflect and remember that Paul was once Saul and killed christians. Paul’s vision of christianity was not the same as the other apostles. Glenn’s views of christianity may not be the same as yours, but it does not change the message, no more than it did when Paul converted.

I have watched Glenn a long time–since CNN days. The more I watched and listened the more I liked him. I learn so much from him about history, politics, and being human. He’s funny sometimes and sometimes he is very sobering. I think he has been wonderful for the American people, and for the country during this time period, in the history of our country. He is very inspiring and encouraging. I don’t know a whole lot about the Mormon religion. But I know a Christian when I see one and listen to one. Glenn is a Christian. He believes in one God, the God of creation. He believes that Jesus was sent by God to die on the cross for OUR sins. He believes that the only way to the Father is through the Son. Anything else is RELIGION. He has a relationship with the Lord. Anyone can get up and pander to a crowd and to his public. But Glenn points away from himself and points back to God. My only concern is not with Glenn but with people..Christians or other. Be careful that you don’t elevate a man to the level of God. No one but His Son Jesus can stand next to God. The only worthy One. Don’t allow yourself to make Glenn an “idol”. That would be abhorrent to God, and I believe that it would be abhorrent to Glenn. Love him, trust him, listen to him, appreciate him and be thankful for him. Yes, even question him. But just remember he is a man, a human being with frailties and weaknesses as we all are. Thank you Glenn for a fabulous 9/28. I watched it on C-Span..I pray it will live on in our hearts and in our actions.

To the author, to answer your question as to what changed in American Christian’s that they would accept a non-traditonal (so-called Christian), like Beck, as their national leader complete with theBlack Robed Brigade; I believe because it directly coincides with the failings of Bush and the rising of Obama, that he filled the void that Bush left after Christian’s realized that Bush had led them into the darkest time that American’s can relate to as the Great Depression. We have both wars and economic hardships, which always drives weak Christian’s back to God, Whom they did not need in their lives, UNTIL NOW.

@Steven Bischoff,

I would appreciate it if you would elaborate on which of my comments oppose one another. I don’t see any inconsistencies here.

As for Beck setting the record straight, I am aware that he does so regularly. This post asks if and when he will do so again because the spectacle of the 8/28 rally seems to have many in his audience convinced that he is more than a political talk show host. In this very thread, as well as on Facebook, there are commenters who compare him to Jeremiah and John the Baptist. Such comparisons prove the point of this post.

Now, it is interesting that you argue that the “gospel of Beck” and the “Gospel of Jesus” are one and the same. In the article I linked to in this post (I link to it again here: http://www.russellmoore.com/2010/08/29/god-the-gospel-and-glenn-beck/) the very thesis is that Evangelical Americans who attended Beck’s rally left thinking that they had heard the Gospel. The author of the piece argues that Beck’s message “was less about anything uniquely Christian than about, at best, a generically theistic civil religion.” In other words, he believes that those in attendance heard good moral teaching, but not once during the day did they hear the Gospel of Christ’s crucifixion, resurrection, and singular atonement. I would be interested to know what you think. Please read that article and let us know. This is the provocative critique of Beck to which I originally referred.

As for my observation on what you call “evangelists disapproving of mormans [sic],” my actual statement was that evangelicals have traditionally disapproved of mormons, and they now appear to be much more willing to overlook theological and fundamental divides that have separated them in the past. As you mentioned, the gathering of religious leaders at the rally is a change, and I did see it. However, it was an effect of a shift rather than a cause. Therefore I ask again, what would cause so many religious leaders, particularly Christian pastors, to unite in a religious cause with a man professing a faith of which they traditionally have disapproved?

okay janet, i did indeed look for referances to jesus and satan being brothers in morman faith. what i found was that they believe that god the father created ALL spirits/ souls. the angels, satan, the holy stirit and yes, jesus. however, they DO INDEED acknowledge jesus as the only begotten son of god AND the vigin mary. thye DO INDEED BELIEVE in the trinity of god the father, the son and the holy spirit. the DO believe satan to be cast out of heaven to tempt mans souls. they DO believe satan to be a deciever. sounds to me like christian dogma. maybe you’ve been decieved a bit janet? and whats with the GAY referances? it betrays a hateful devisive tone. not at all a christian forgiving tenet. jesus teaches us to unite , forgive, pray for those with whom we disagree. glenn embraces that very doctrine. 8/28 ended on a note to pray BO and congress. he echoed that sentiment in the past, and again tonight on tv. glenn not only IS a christian, but one who practices what he preaches. he prays to the same god you do, every night , on his knees so his children can see him. this is a couragius, pious man who is trying with all his soul to give us faith, hope and charity that we may give it to one another. sounds pretty goshdarn christian to me. what are you doing to get this country back on track besides bearing false witness? does this begin to anwer your inquiry eric?

The author of this article makes a very good point, and most of its critics (few who seem to be able to spell or use punctuation properly) aren’t addressing the substance of the article’s thesis. The question is whether or not Glenn Beck would be qualified, by *evangelical Christian standards*, to lead a *Christian* spiritual revival. If so, then it stands to reason that many Christians would be abandoning Christian standards for such a person and replacing them with Theistic/Deistic/”Patriotic” ones (as many of the Founding Fathers did – very few were Christians, most were Deists).

It’s not enough to claim that everyone involved believes in ‘God’. Demons believe in God. Muslim terrorists believe in God (whom they address in Arabic as “Allah”). The question is over who this God is, and what is required to be right with God. Mormonism, Judaism, and Christianity all disagree profoundly over this issue, and as such do *not* have the same “gospel”. In Christianity, it’s belief in the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ (as God, not as a created being – Christians do *not* believe that Elohim created the Holy Spirit or Jesus, they believe that Jesus IS the Creator). In Judaism it’s adherence to both the written and oral commandments given to Moses, and in Mormonism – well, it’s even more complex than that, but it centers around different books, rituals, and a *different Jesus*. Mormonism is *not* Christianity, nor is it compatible with Judaism. This isn’t even up for debate, the only people claiming the two are doctrinally compatible are simply ignorant of the facts and don’t know historical Christianity or Mormon doctrine well enough to make informed comments on the issue. Most defenders of this viewpoint are clinging to a “Gospel of America and Prosperity/Security” rather than the Biblical Gospel. If this weren’t so, Mormons wouldn’t make such an effort to Convert Christians through their “missionary” work. I know, I’ve spent hours with Mormons in my living room discussing the differences, and many of my good friends in my school years were Mormons (who wanted to convert me, by the way).

For Christians, the Apostle Paul makes it very clear that anyone professing a “different Jesus” has “no Jesus at all”, and Mormonism’s Jesus is quite different from the historical, Biblical Jesus. This is easily established by doing some honest reading on the subject.

The Gospel isn’t about elevating a particular country or its inhabitants and their worldly lifestyle (which is why for centuries Christians were content to become Martyrs rather than renounce Christ in favor of Caesar and Country, etc.), it’s about a NEW and HEAVENLY Kingdom which is *not* of this world (see the words of Christ to Pontius Pilate in John 18:36 if you have any doubt about this). Evangelical Christians base their beliefs on the Bible, *conversely*, Mormons base their beliefs mainly on the Book of Mormon and on revelations from their “prophets” (which is why they *no longer* claim people of African descent bear the “Mark of Cain” and are hell-bound, *as Mormonism taught for decades*; they shifted their beliefs according to new “revelation” at the end of the last century).

For those genuinely interested in understanding the differences, see this video for a very clear introduction to Mormon theology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7q6brMrFw0E It’s called “The God Makers”, and the LDS Church has worked HARD over the years to conceal these teachings. That’s a fact.

Mormonism *does* claim that Jesus and Lucifer are spirit brothers (created beings), Salvation is by works, and that God the Father is named “Elohim” (one of the titles used to refer to YHWH in the Hebrew Tanakh) and lives on his own planet procreating and creating spirit babies. This is the goal of Mormon Temple marriage – to inherit an exalted salvation and a planet(!) in the afterlife (and once-upon-a-time to populate this planet with multiple wives to have celestial sex producing White and Delightsome spirit babies). Mormons rely on (surprise!) the Book of Mormon rather than the collection of books and letters Christians hold to, known generically as the Bible. Mormons do claim that the “1611 AV” (KJV) is useful, as long as it is “rightly interpreted”, that is, interpreted according to the teachings of Joseph Smith and Brigham Young, which differ substantially from the historic Christian Gospel of salvation by Grace, through faith, by the atoning work and resurrection of Yehoshua the Messiah (Jesus Christ in Greek – Joshua/Yah’Shua the Anointed when translated).

To claim that the “Gospel of Beck” and the “Gospel of Jesus” are one and the same – wow, it’s hard to even respond to such an ignorant statement, EVEN WITH ALL CAPS! They are very different. Period. The goal of a Christian revival would be repentance and turning to, and placing faith in, Jesus Christ and His completed work of salvation, and that the Kingdom of God has arrived and can be lived here and now (across countries and races, no less). The Gospel of Beck is simply Moralism re-framed. Moralism and the Gospel are not the same.

Jews and Christians don’t believe the same thing about the Messiah, just as “Latter Day Saints” don’t either. This is just doctrinal fact, not a value judgment. So, to address the author’s question, those “Christians” who would view Glenn Beck as leading a valid spiritual revival would be doing so against the historical and Biblical teachings of the Christian (as well as Jewish) faith. This would be a Jingoistic revival centered on America rather than on the Heavenly Kingdom. This a view much more compatible with Mormonism (an America-centered belief system – they believe the Constitution of the USA is a divinely inspired document and that Zion is found in Utah) than with historical Christianity, which transcends national and patriotic interests. Anyone who wants to debate this would first be advised to consult with the history of the Church (especially the first 300 years or so) and with the writings of the early Church as well.

Travis,

Thank you for addressing the central query of this post. Your argument is well-founded and intelligently written, but the simple fact that you answered the question makes your comment the best that I have read so far. I hope that more readers will engage with the thesis of the post, rather than defending Glenn Beck from an attack that was not made here to begin with.

I don’t believe that believing in the things that Glenn is saying and said on 9/12, has a thing to do with accepting Mormonism. But nor do I put him on a pedestal or proclaim him to be a prophet. I think he is a good man, a patriotic man, who cares deeply about his country. He is uniting others who feel the same way. Uniting those who believe that our country is being lost and replaced by something undesirable to say- the least. Yes, he refers to God and our need for God’s strength and wisdom. But in a generic sense, without specifics. I in no way felt my own beliefs threatened by anything he had to say. I appreciate the job he is doing. I am glad that someone such as he has a platform to speak from. He is dedicated to our country and it’s people. He doesn’t want our Constitution to be thrown out as irrelevant. So he teaches us about it and our Founding Fathers. He teaches us history that has been lost until now to the majority of us. He teaches us history so that we don’t keep repeating the down sides of it. Doing these things and more, telling us that he believes that the only way we are going to get out of this mess is by God’s Hand, God’s strength, our prayerfulness does not negate my Christian beliefs whatsoever. It doesn’t suggest Mormonism. Implementing Faith, Hope, and Charity doesn’t either. I am thankful that he speaks out when it costs him much. I am thankful that he has the money and other resources to research the many facets of this administration. Without this, I don’t think we would understand or discern the depth of what is going on. Christian or non..I believe that God can use him and is using him. I do not believe that Glenn was professing the Mormon religion and that is why Christian pastors were willing to come together for this occasion. There was nothing presented to offend or compromise their own faith. If I had been Jewish or Muslim on the other hand, that might have been another story, but for a good cause otherwise, it was overlooked as well. So to sum, I don’t believe that accepting someone of the Mormon faith was a point at all. It didn’t come into play in my opinion. Most of us got to “know” Glenn long before we knew he was a Mormon. He had our respect and interest. Finding he was Mormon could not take that away, nor should it.

Gwen, I couldn’t agree with you more. BTW, I didn’t mean that I thought Glenn is a prophet as in the old testament. Everything Biblical prophets said came true, that was the test of whether they were true prophets, anointed and appointed by God. Glenn can only speculate, based on history and his research into the scoundrels in Washington, where things are headed if we don’t turn the ship around, so to speak. However, prophets did tend to go around and warn the people to get right and live for God, much like Glenn is doing now. I do believe that God has raised him up for such a time as this. I don’t put him on a pedestal but sure am grateful that he is waking up the people and leading them in the right direction. My husband and I ran the Christian Coalition of Maine for 20 or so years, and we nearly despaired that anything would wake the people up before our country just fell into the abyss. We are so grateful to Glenn, and David Barton, and numerous others for leading our country back to it’s roots and what looks like a new “great awakening” for God and country. They are giving us old war horses a renewed hope.

Caroline Volle I think you might have missed my point. I apologize if I did not articulate it well. Eric asked why Christians are willing to listen to Beck. I am simply suggesting that it is because they recognize the truth in what he is saying and are not letting the derogatory labels get in the way of recognizing God’s call. The rest of my statements were in direct response to Travis’ comments. Sorry, they don’t really have much to do with the original article or Glenn Beck’s rally, but had to be addressed because they were false and misleading and were accepted by the original author as acceptable and intelligent and leading to a real debate on the original thesis. I disagree, but could not ignore them. I do totally agree with what you say about what is going on with Beck and the nation.

Travis, thank you for giving me the opportunity to respond to your questions, though I fear they fall on deaf ears. You clearly think you already know all the answers. But I will answer them to the best of my ability anyway because it matters to me and I hope others will not be misled by the false claims you are making:

- Was black/brown, etc. skin taught to be the Mark of Cain in the LDS churches for years?

The only time references to skin coloring is brought up around the Mormon faith is in the Book of Mormon when God placed a curse on the Lamanites for their unrighteousness so the Nephites would not mingle with the unrighteous. When they chose later to follow Jesus Christ and repented and turned their hearts to the Lord, the Lord told the Nephites that the Lamanites had become more righteous than the Nephites. This scenario does not translate into “black/brown vs. white” people, but stood only for a time as righteousness vs. unrighteousness. It has nothing to do with black/brown skin, nor was it ever suggested that ‘all dark-skinned people have the curse of Cain’.

I think, sadly, when the LDS church sought to be inclusive and sought to openly allow black men the opportunity to hold the priesthood and became public about the revelation that God saw black/brown men as worthy children – instead of it being received as a peaceful, beautiful statement of God’s love for all of his children at a time when the country could not accept this equality fully, people have tried to pervert it into something else; people twist it and conclude that the LDS people must have taught racism before that time. A deep and honest study into the history of the church will help you see that the early LDS people were some of the most accepting and loving people and assisted with all their hearts in helping to free the slaves. So your attempt to convince me that the church taught that black/brown people have been cursed with an evil curse is not an argument that I think is worthy of discussion because it is simply false and based on total misunderstandings. We believe and teach firmly the statement from the New Testament that God is no ‘respecter of persons’. He doesn’t care what color your skin is as long as you are of good and moral character working out your salvation before God.

- You mentioned Jesus being “the God of *this* world”. Do you believe that *all* things, visible and invisible (the whole cosmos) was created by Him, for Him, and through Him? How about Kolob?

Jesus is the creator of all things and did so by direction of the Father. John 1:3 says that he is the creator of ALL things, and John 8 is one example of where Jesus discusses learning from and receiving commandment from the Father.

- Are Jesus and “Lucifer” spirit brothers?
The Bible teaches that Lucifer was the “son of the morning” and a fallen angel. We do teach that we are all God’s children; that Lucifer chose to rebel and so was cast out of heaven with those children that would follow him and not choose God’s plan (Revelation 12). We teach that we are all spirit brothers and sisters – based on biblical teachings… But don’t let this be confusing. Jesus Christ is the ONLY BEGOTTEN of the Father in the flesh which places Him as God. Lucifer, is clearly not a God.

- Does not the book of Mormon teach that Jesus was born in Jerusalem, not Bethlehem as the Bible teaches? (Alma 7:10)

This is obviously a reference to his homeland and a geographical description; a land that the people were familiar with as their homeland, where their fathers had come from, “at Jeruselem”…not ‘in’.

- Do you realize that the KJV was based on the “Textus Receptus”, compiled by Thomas Erasmus, a Roman Catholic, and that he didn’t even have a Greek text of Revelation, but rather made one from the Latin Vulgate text? (btw, even King James – who inserted his name throughout scripture, there is no such name as “James” in Hebrew, it’s Yakov – had the KJV revised in 1617 and even more beyond that, and it’s just an English *translation*, not the original documents – I studied Greek, I’ll take it over the KJV *any day) To say that the KJV is the most faithful text – well, no textual scholar outside of BYU would agree (though some may say the Alexandrine texts are superior to other textual variants). I personally do prefer the Byzantine to the Vatican texts, but the KJV is still seriously deficient on many levels, but that’s another debate.

No, that is the point exactly. Even the KJV is inadequate in that it is not the original text, but the closest English translation available – you just proved the point and should then recognize the need for God to help us clarify what was originally written. You maybe can now see the need for revelation – for God to directly correct what has been tampered with by men. I commend you for trying to find the most accurate text. We all should seek to do so.

- Does not Mormonism teach that you have to keep the “Commandments” to be fully saved?

This question comes up a lot. But I’m confused as to why, especially since those who make it say they believe the bible and all that Jesus taught.

First and foremost we know that it is only through the grace of God that we are saved. And what of Jesus’ other statements on the matter?: Deut. 26:16; 11:1; Ps 119:4,60; 1 Kings 8:58; 1 Jn 5:3; Mark 10:21; James 2 and how many times did Jesus say: “follow me” while on the earth. I could continue the list, but hopefully you get the point.

Many people like to contend with members of the LDS faith and say that we think we ‘work’ our way into heaven. We simply believe Jesus when he said all of the things I have already referenced.

A serious reflection of the Bible would make it clear that God’s people are a covenant people and God has always laid out his commandments for his children. If it did not matter that we make and keep these covenants (keep his commandments), then why waste God’s breath laying them out for us?! A true follower of Jesus Christ will follow the plan he laid out and that includes ‘work’ to be as he was. But please don’t think we ignore the importance of Grace. It is the only way that any of it is possible. Without Jesus’ mercy we cannot enter into the kingdom of God. To ignore this fact is to ignore the entire purpose of his coming. The ‘work’ is simply keeping the covenants we make with Him when we accept him as our Savior.

- Do LDS members believe that Elohim himself had a father, and that there is an endless cycle of God-making (humans becoming gods and begetting more humans who will become gods)? (a la “If You Could Hie to Kolob”) Do you refute the statement of Lorenzo Snow (5th LDS President): “”As man is, God once was; as God is, man may become.”?
Do you believe Elohim was once essentially like a human?

Please refer to all of the scripture references I posted wherein the bible makes it completely clear that we are children of God and can become joint heirs with Christ to all the Father has. We are his children, and children can grow up to become like their father. This is clear strictly from the biblical texts I have referenced (Psalm 82:6 and Acts 17: 29 and Romans 8:16-17 and Revelation 3:21 and Revelation 21: 6-7). Pray about it. I know you’ll find your answer. It will come from your loving Father in Heaven by the Spirit of Truth.

Finally, I did not mean to claim that the only difference was the Book of Mormon. I was simply speaking directly to the comments made about the Book of Mormon and we recognize that God’s gospel is for all people. All we claim is that the Book of Mormon is another record and testament of Jesus Christ. If you have really read the book, and I believe you have at least looked it over, you will clearly see that the entire message is about turning to Jesus Christ, the son of God, that by him and through him we can return to God because of the atonement he has made. “And we talk of Christ, we rejoice in Christ, we preach of Christ, we prophesy of Christ, and we write according to our prophecies, that our children may know to what source they may look for a remission of their sins” (2Nep 25:26). That is the message of the entire book. It, as I said before, does not detract or change any of the gospel laid out in the bible, but acts as a second witness to the SAME Jesus that was born to the Virgin Mary in Bethlehem.

I am truly confused by Christians who have decided that the windows of heaven would only ever be open to one group of people for some period of time and that God would limit his voice by speaking to only one group of God’s children. He loves all of humankind. Why would he not take his message to them all? You sit here and claim that we are racist and teach that black/brown people have the curse of Cain, but in the same breath suggest that God did not love them enough to give them the gospel and visit them as he did in the Bible. I just don’t understand the ‘logic’. God did love his ‘other sheep’, enough to visit them following his resurrection and they kept a record of it. God still loves his people, and the windows of Heaven are not shut.

“O that cunning plan of the evil one! O the vainness, and the frailties, and the foolishness of men! When they are learned they think they are wise, and they hearken not unto the counsel of God, for they set it aside, supposing they know of themselves, wherefore, their wisdom is foolishness and it profiteth them not.”

Travis, you make a lot of accurate points about what the LDS church believes in, but most of them don’t quite get it right. There is no way that I could convince you of what we really do believe. You would have to do more research, with an open mind. I am very happily and proudly a Mormon, and I am a Christian. My definition of a Christian is a person who believes that Jesus Christ is the Son of God, came to the Earth as his only begotten son, lived a “Christian” life as an example of how we should live, and died on the cross, after taking our sins onto himself that we could be resurrected to live with our Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ again. Yes, we believe that the two, plus the Holy Ghost are three separate, distinct beings, that’s why they are called The Father and The Son and the Holy Ghost. As far as all the rest goes, you only have about three-quarters of the facts and should go and do more research before you profess what Mormon’s believe. And I would recommend a Mormon site rather than an anti-Mormon, hate spewing site. Sorry if I spelled anything wrong, I do not claim perfection.

I believe that Glenn Beck called ALL FAITHS to come together. Glenn’s religion really has nothing to do with the message. He has never once said that his religion is the true religion. I truly admire the man beyond belief…and no, I am not a Mormon. He has brought the message of our country and our Founding Fathers because it has been lost over time…and with the situation today…WE ALL NEED A WAKE-UP CALL !! I beleive God has brought Glenn to the forefront because all others from various faiths have been silent. The time for silence is over…and Glenn is putting his life, his family safety, the safety of his co-workers…and obviously, even the safety of Alveda King, Martin Luther King’s niece, at risk with his message. He believes strongly enough to risk it all to bring the message to the masses that no one else has the courage to bring. There will always be “nay-sayers”…as from the beginning of time… Those who trust Glenn and believe the message will do their best to stand up and change the world the same way our founders did when they realized the British were not interested in the common good of their people. God Bless Glenn for what he does… The Bible says that the rocks will cry out if no one else does… Thank God for Glenn and his message…no matter what his personal faith may be.

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